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UK independence day

Postby banjo » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:08 am

The wait is nearly over with polls suggesting a very close result but this has split the country and I do not think politics will ever be the same after this referendum.
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Postby FlagHostel » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:57 am

yes banjo is right.

today is the day !

make sure you all vote 'remain' before you go to bed tonight

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Postby MIK_bg » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:18 pm

Polls are not a good sign. Online the exit voters party is more than 80%. Just go around and read yourself comments on news sites.

But the 45/45 pools are the typical scam narrative they use. Too close to tell. Then thet just dump 40% of pro Brexit votes and materialize out of nowhere 30% of pro EU votes.

Absolutely funny all the new EU regulations about to hit just after the referendum. Whit the plan to merge all european social / pensions funds so they can hide better how many are actually bankrupted.



For the rest Bulgarians live by the day. If they have one lev they spend it. And they spend it even if they don't as they are all in debt. Easy loans on the family apartments and houses they live in. Sold usually everything family owned as land and any house they do not occupy. Plus they have debt one with each other. Many start business just to get loans, then leave with the money.
The most ridiculous thing is seeing bankruptcy administrators selling the properties on the internet after they got tribunal order. Well nor only they market it for prices no one will pay so they go unsold for many years but they not even evinct the ex owners who keep using houses,land and stores, or even try to sell them theieself.

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Postby Oscar » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:52 pm

MIK_bg wrote:Polls are not a good sign. Online the exit voters party is more than 80%. Just go around and read yourself comments on news sites.

But the 45/45 pools are the typical scam narrative they use. Too close to tell. Then thet just dump 40% of pro Brexit votes and materialize out of nowhere 30% of pro EU votes.

Absolutely funny all the new EU regulations about to hit just after the referendum. Whit the plan to merge all european social / pensions funds so they can hide better how many are actually bankrupted.



For the rest Bulgarians live by the day. If they have one lev they spend it. And they spend it even if they don't as they are all in debt. Easy loans on the family apartments and houses they live in. Sold usually everything family owned as land and any house they do not occupy. Plus they have debt one with each other. Many start business just to get loans, then leave with the money.
The most ridiculous thing is seeing bankruptcy administrators selling the properties on the internet after they got tribunal order. Well nor only they market it for prices no one will pay so they go unsold for many years but they not even evinct the ex owners who keep using houses,land and stores, or even try to sell them theieself.


None of the Bulgarians I know are in debt,either to a bank or each other,none of them have loans based on property either...........I know because they are family,so this is just the usual,generalisations and hearsay dressed up as fact..........fact is,it's more garbage on a site already over run with garbage.

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Postby Oscar » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:54 pm

Please............everybody with a vote,vote out............let everybody in Europe celebrate the independence,I know that I will be. :D

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Postby Nick1 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:11 pm

yes vote out,and stop giving UK money to the grabbing EU,plus if the UK votes to leave i think others will follow,the EU is a dying duck.
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Postby troyan » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:20 pm

MIK why do you turn a thread about the UK referendum into vicious anti Bulgaria criticism

Bulgaria is in far better shape than you think, lower national debt than most countries, lower crime, higher home ownership, higher literacy, faster internet speeds...........etc etc etc

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Postby MIK_bg » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:36 pm

Oscar wrote:
MIK_bg wrote:Polls are not a good sign. Online the exit voters party is more than 80%. Just go around and read yourself comments on news sites.

But the 45/45 pools are the typical scam narrative they use. Too close to tell. Then thet just dump 40% of pro Brexit votes and materialize out of nowhere 30% of pro EU votes.

Absolutely funny all the new EU regulations about to hit just after the referendum. Whit the plan to merge all european social / pensions funds so they can hide better how many are actually bankrupted.



For the rest Bulgarians live by the day. If they have one lev they spend it. And they spend it even if they don't as they are all in debt. Easy loans on the family apartments and houses they live in. Sold usually everything family owned as land and any house they do not occupy. Plus they have debt one with each other. Many start business just to get loans, then leave with the money.
The most ridiculous thing is seeing bankruptcy administrators selling the properties on the internet after they got tribunal order. Well nor only they market it for prices no one will pay so they go unsold for many years but they not even evinct the ex owners who keep using houses,land and stores, or even try to sell them theieself.


None of the Bulgarians I know are in debt,either to a bank or each other,none of them have loans based on property either...........I know because they are family,so this is just the usual,generalisations and hearsay dressed up as fact..........fact is,it's more garbage on a site already over run with garbage.


My bad. Out of the mafia zone obviously.

Just google household debt and savings for bulgarians. You get many statistics institution studies, bank reports and EU and Bulgaria finance institutions reports(last two I won't trust for anything as spead political bulls**t to sell EU)

50% no saving, less than 20% can save montly. Debt to savings/assets growth to 68% than went down to 55% to then rise again steadly while income/expenses ratio grows as well.

If you cannot find any I can link you some to chill you in the hot summer weather like this
http://epi-bg.org/images/Books/private_ ... ss_eng.pdf


Those living in the real economy making 400 lev month and will never have a second hand car...without selling granny house or taking loans on the inherited flat they occupy. Wich are still the majority in BG, out of your low cost dream world.

Just take statistic of average income in different zones and subtract basic necessities, there is no money for cars, vacations, clothes, dinners...and I'm talking of 2nd 3rd 4rd hand cars, cheap 5 days vacation with kids bought on offertini, chinese clothes and dinner at the local tavern, leave alone mercedes and suvs.

This, still considering that they avoid any tax and there is a load of black money and bulgarian middle class do not exist. So or you are somehow "rich" by bulgarian standard, and we are not talking of a very representative percentage or you are the mass of low income.

You live in Varna, I live in Kardjali. Which is the most medium level reference for Bulgaria?

How do you know how people is doing? Look at the extreme success of gambling (if you cannot achieve by the means of work your only chance to get better life standard is by gambling or probably move to varna and enjoy criminality economy powerhouse environment) and the cultural portrait of wealth. How in the media or in real life thet are desperate to get status symbols (who can for the rest of us be laughable but they are deadly important for them)

It's poverty, actual and cultural, wide spread lack of consistent and stable income and inability to manage it.

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Postby troyan » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:57 pm

MIK
I live in a sleepy hamlet, if you blinked you would miss it

My neighbours on the face of it you would think peasants,but beneath lies a different story, they all do OK some a lot more than OK....... my next door neighbour was a seaman and invested wisely and has an apartment block in Varna......another neighbour has an expanding business making wadding....drive past the factory and you would not even know it existed..my other neighbour sadly no longer with us, I was joking with him one day that I had no money.that night he pulled out a massive wad of money and said if I ever needed help to ask him......etc etc

now there are the have nots but they are everywhere in every country

BG is not what you think it is

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Postby Oscar » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:12 pm

MIK_bg wrote:


You live in Varna, I live in Kardjali. Which is the most medium level reference for Bulgaria?

How do you know how people is doing? Look at the extreme success of gambling (if you cannot achieve by the means of work your only chance to get better life standard is by gambling or probably move to varna and enjoy criminality economy powerhouse environment) and the cultural portrait of wealth. How in the media or in real life thet are desperate to get status symbols (who can for the rest of us be laughable but they are deadly important for them)

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How do I know what people are doing?..........I just gave you how I know when I told you my immediate family and their relatives are nothing like what you are trying to claim,none of what you wrote applies to them,that's how I know,and they live in Vidin and Montana area,the poorest in the EU,nothing to do with Varna.
Now how do you know what people are doing,because to write what you have done about all Bulgarians being in debt,you would need to know the close personal and business affairs of millions of Bulgarians...........how did you do that?........you didn't ask my friends or relatives,or they would have told you a completely different story,so how come you know so much about millions of others personal affairs?...........did you conduct an online survey with them?.........phone them?..........how did you find out?...........Publish how you got all your info to claim that all Bulgarians are in debt,lets all see how you did it.
Truth is you're a conspiracy theorist specialised in writing garbage,as we have seen already with post after post of complete nonsense,I don't believe a word you write,as with any conspiracy theorist,but you won't get away with writing garbage on here,you keep writing it,and i'll keep calling it for what it is,it's no problem at all for me.


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