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Postby troyan » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:56 am

that is not immigration Banjo
that is biblical exodus

Im not sure Merkel is playing with a full deck she seems detached if you look at her, a distant gaze

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Postby banjo » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:17 pm

Sheila gave 12 reasons but not all good reasons but reasons that are made from free speech some I agree with but some I do not agree with.

One I disagree with if you are not happy with the UK government you have the democratic right to vote them out after 4 yrs you have no rights at all to vote out the BRUSSELS MOB but if you are happy to be dictated to by mad cow Merkal go and live in Germany they are not fussed who they take.

Also it is not racist to talk about immigration its a concern that a lot of British people have the brexit voters are not racists or bigots,

I do agree with you the British empire did steal other countries but if it was not us it would have been some other country but we got there first.

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Postby troyan » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:03 pm

Agree immigration is not racism and should not be ignored or mistaken as racism or called as racism..........infact immigration badly managed can and does create racism.

My city Liverpool I would say having traveled and worked in most places in the UK is probably one of the least racist places in the UK, has a large Chinese and black community my family has two multiracial couples and everyone gets along OK. Of course it is not Utopia but its not such a bad place to be any longer.

I would put a lot down to integration, proper integration.

The refugee crisis is not immigration and is already becoming very ugly in Europe
We are responsible in part for creating it so we and all the member states should address it.

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Postby SheilaP » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:11 pm

Sorry but I didn't vote for David and George and definitely not for mother Theresa. Our perception of how much democracy we really have is probably more apparent than real. The best and closest example of democracy we have on the planet currently is Canada- an open, tolerant and fair minded country of immigrants from all over the world.

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Postby banjo » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:32 pm

Liverpool Manchester and all other northern areas are the most welcoming places in the UK and I applaud you for helping people. We in Northants have a massive Polish influx and they are also very welcome we are not racists but we have a massive housing problem schools places are a big problem our GP surgeries are at breaking point.

Yes we did help in creating some problems IE Iraq and we created in some cases the perfect storm so did the coalition and things did not turn out as expected you are dammed if you do or dammed if you dont so my own thought would be to stop getting involved in other countries and let them sort out the mess stay and fight for their own freedom not get onto boats.

But yet again we have a German political leader trying to impose their will on the rest of the EU but the UK said no we will not take all these refugees and then we are slagged off for not doing enough.

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Postby troyan » Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:03 pm

Well for years nobody wanted to go to Liverpool so the immigration has been slow in the case of the afro and Chinese they have been there for a very long time, which helps,sudden massive influxes are not good,

just consider a Bulgarian village, two families moving in has quite an impact so i really do not know which planet Mrs Merkel is on if she thinks suddenly imposing 2 million people overnight is a good idea, especially from a totally different cultural background its not going to end well.

Sheila I find BG a very tolerant and fair place, again not Utopia but I feel very comfortable and welcome here, i lived in Southern Spain for 8 years and never really settled,couldnt really handle the Latin culture much as I tried... so imagine what Syrians and Afghans must feel in Germany.

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Postby banjo » Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:27 pm

I agree troyan Bg is a very friendly place I came here 14 yrs ago and fell in love with the people and culture the Bulgarian people are very proud of their heritage and I have found that if you are English you are welcomed with open arms. But as you say Troyan 2 million refugees will not be tolerated they are Muslims and have a different culture the men cannot tolerate the values that western women have they do not believe in freedom for women they are like kids in a sweet shop which one can I grope first.

French girls being assaulted for the way they dress is intolerable these freedoms of expression in western society is not tolerated even by certain cultures who live in western countries that have been in the UK or Europe for many years these kind of people will never be part of western values they treat their women worse than dogs its their culture .

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Postby MIK_bg » Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:50 pm

"Probably" Merkel and Eurocrats idea of good is different from the idea of the european citizens.

The only clear thing is they are bullshitting the people. Refugees are the result of global warming...this is an Hillary Clinton comedy hour . Immigrates come from war zones...at least 95% of the do not but eurocrats are using the sirian situation (they created along with US) to justify the illegal immigration.
To the meme that was circulating by few years that Europe economy needs millions of them to just survive.

Well refugees do not work, they do not pay taxes they just sink the socialist system...wait...is it probably this they are called over here? With pocket money, with vauchers, mobile phones, soros ngo guides to how to to cross illegaly.

Why they all come over now? Where the the thousands of euros necessary to move to Europe come from? If they had the money, they would had come before.

Not to talk of who actually run the immigrants business between the travel, crossing and shelter them in europe.

There is a whole business of human trafficking and the criminals are not the average joe but high ranking bankers, speculators and politicians.

From the US army to Soros, from Turkey to the Eurocrats...they are all working together to bring the situation to the collapse.

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Postby scot47 » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:50 am

I was instructed to do so by the Elders of Zion.

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Postby Nick1 » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:03 am

Flags you are now assuming why i voted out,as well as assuming that i voted out.


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