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Postby troyan » Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:03 pm

So.........missiles need satellites to reach their targets........then you say satellites are outed when war or terrorism takes place, and satellites can be jammed so you just make it all up as you go along and satellites are not reliable......yet you can get uninterrupted sky tv by pointing at the Congo........keep digging

Did you know missiles just like aircraft do not take into account the curvature of the earth just like engineers and architects, ships and trains never take the curvature into account .......never

Did you know geodetic surveyors introduce curvature into calculations of normal surveying which everybody else uses,datums and stations are all over........and we built the suez canal, which should have thousands of feet of curvature bridges and tunnels spanning thousands of miles, no curvature, none.

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Postby MIK_bg » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:12 am

Not all missiles need satellite obviously. Those on ranges of houndreds of km exciding radars support use satellites...you mix all up. Sorry Troyan but I think networkng concept is too complicated for you to grasp as you do not know how the technologies used actually work it seema to you all mumbo jumbo. There are many constellations of satellites, military, military/civilian, civilian. Your civilian gps is the first to go. Military systems will be still up until will take off by enemies. Actually Russia first strike scenario is to explode a emp bomb in quote over US to blind their system just before attacking the ground.

The whole S antimissile defence system of russia works in a scenario where the satellites are off.
Us has not similar system able to react so fast on radar range.

I've already told you why curvature is not taken in account.. earth is not a perfect geometric shape nor flat...
Any variation +/- you will take in account is greater of any curvature.

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Postby troyan » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:58 am

there is one thing I can grasp and that is surveying because that is what I do and can reliably inform you that you can not have it both ways, if the earth is not a sphere then nothing would work like gps or orbits because they supposedly work on a sphere and we told by all the advocates of a sphere that the earth is round.
In surveying and engineering it would be impossible to build anything on what you are imagining without any explanation whatsoever

You have not explained why gps can not be obtained worldwide,but I have put forward why you can not the GPS satellite owners tell us it covers the globe but it doesnt and you or anybody else can not explain why coverage is not what they tell us, its quite easy and that is that it is all land based

Is that not what they told us when they were looking from the moon that it is round....now you are telling us otherwise?

So continuing......we have engineers, architects aircraft, ships submarines who all navigate and operate on a flat plane, and nobody can prove curvature but people can prove no curvature

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Postby SheilaP » Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:46 pm

Seems your conversations are going around in circles!

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Postby MIK_bg » Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:40 pm

SheilaP wrote:Seems your conversations are going around in circles!


No! There is no proof of the circles...conversations are flat too!

Troyan there is no difference between creating a network of wifi access points, mobile antennas or satellites....you have antennas with a specific beam, an output power etc. you cannot cover everything even overlapping a **** of them.

As the sun cannot illuminate full light all the earth in a time or illuminate inside a cave or behind a mountain or the other side of the planet.

I seriously dubt you understand how many watt it needs to beam a signal of radiowaves from Rome to New York....from 500kw to 1 megawatt...you are cooking birds and people alive....well there is no way to give 1 megawatt to.a satellite and In fact they work around 500watt. Nor 10 megawatt to cover one emisphere as you think a sole satellite should do.

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Postby scot47 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:39 pm

Circles - of the crop variety !

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Postby troyan » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:56 pm

I seriously dubt you understand how many watt it needs to beam a signal of radiowaves from Rome to New York....from 500kw to 1 megawatt...you are cooking birds and people alive....well there is no way to give 1 megawatt to.a satellite and In fact they work around 500watt. Nor 10 megawatt to cover one emisphere as you think a sole satellite should do.


it all goes under the sea there is thousands of miles of fibre optics all over the world under the ocean....then it goes land based, there are no satellites

take your pick the evidence can not really be ignored



https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... not+exist+

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Postby MIK_bg » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:37 pm

Oh please...what a pile of steaming...retarded, bulls**t.

This guy assumes things continuosly.

Like digital tv...digital tv is trasmitted by ground antennas or you can decide to get it from satellites...what's the difference? Put two screens one next to each other and you'll see satellite is late.

You can pick up digital tv with analgue antenna, you do not need a special antenna, but you may need a filter to improve signal. Satellite tv cannot be get by normal analogue tv antenna, you need an high gain antenna, best parabolic or logaritmic.

Just because he can get digital tv from common analogue antenna doesn't mean satellite are fake, morover he will never get satellite from common analogue tv antennas. Sky/cable...this is ridiculous. When you do not know what you are talking about you make things up. Like anglosaxons explaining ancient languages using modern english assonance...that is completely ridiculous.

There are pictures of satellites but not close up due to the distance and velicity. But you can find pictures taken by common folks telescopes. The reason they use renders..is the same why 100% of cats you see in advertising are render...they look way bettee of the real thing. Satellites are assembled industry machines nothing nice to see, covered with tons of insulation and things hunging like a cheap crock of garbage put togheter...not apple slick design.
Reason they use compositing for earth is...that they are compositing of more pictured plus many filters to see trough layers of atmosphere etc. Ever used filters to deflect light reflection on water surface? Ever seen the whole difference.

A plain picture of earth from space will delude mosts as it show a ball covered in clouds.

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Postby troyan » Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:00 pm

OK lets move away from satellites and talk about the curvature, did you know the bloke who announced the world is round never did anything to prove it, his was a theory based on the sun and moon and the earth not only spinning on its axis buts also hurtling through space as well

I can prove to you by surveying there is no curvature, it actually has been proven.

Also airplanes do not navigate over a curved surface, their instruments would not work, they only work assuming a flat surface

Ships do not navigate considering curvature

Around the time they announced the world was round they thought the West Indies was India so thats how accurate they were in those days.

You can navigate by the sun but this has nothing to do with curvature

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Postby MIK_bg » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:24 am

So you started with a "it's not about flat earth" to finally going exactly there.

Curvature exist, but not as geometrical calculation out of theories . Earth dimensions are way bigger than we are told...we are europidimensional...europe was the world and europe is in fact very small. They started to depict everything smaller in comparison with europe.

Es g. Actual size of europe vs africa.

When the sun go down and you call your uncle in Australia to know about his sunrise, where he is meant to be? Under your flat surface?

If sun moves left to right how it disappear on a flat surface...there is a curvature.[code][/code]


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