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troyan
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 3:33 pm 
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Kind of agree with SamBo that BG and GB are not really comparible, they are so different, but I guess its automatic to constantly compare the two using GB as a bench mark.

I have weighed up what I like in the UK and what I dont like, and the same for BG,the list is about time, cost of living, the future, the weather, the food, the quality, culture, etc.

BG comes out for me personally well on top on many counts, and I dont even dislike Britain.

To reply to the OP you really need to visit the countries on your shortlist properly, and in BG case probably during the winter if you are looking for warmer climes.

I got down to two, BG and Portugal, but found Portugal a bit too quiet and even boring compared to BG,I like the abstract way of thinking in BG you never know quite what might happen.
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wotnowales
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 7:06 pm 
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SamBo wrote:
wotnowales wrote:
So when people talk about rubbish and I have just read quite a large chunk of the link to the discussion on this, I get the impression that we are talking about litter and fly tipping.
What about household refuse? Is this collected like in the UK and if so is it a "free" service included in council charges or is it a paid and/or service you have to opt in to?


Household rubbish is collected regularly and this is part of the annual Municipal & Garbage tax you pay. These taxes are very low, in a resort or large City they're around 100-150 Leva per Year, in the villages they can equate to more than half of this.

Every Country has it's possitives and negatives, there's no perfect land and it's probably up to you whether or not you can live with Bulgaria's negatives and enjoy the possitives. I do find it a pointless argument comparing the UK to Bulgaria, your comparing 2 completely different Countries in terms of everything.

Bulgaria is a naturally beautiful Country,there is a freedom to roam here, a freedom to live your life here and these are probably the main possitives.

There's a few posts throughout the forum discussing possitives,negatives and cost of living and here's a few below to get you started. But at the end of the day it's down to personal taste and the only way for you to know is to have a look yourself really. Wink
Why are people staying?
www.mybulgaria.info/Why-are-people-staying?
Why are people leaving?
www.mybulgaria.info/Why-are-people-leaving?


Thank you for these links they make very interesting reading, although so far I have only got to page 33 of the first one!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:20 am 
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Hi everyone. I've had enough of keeping Banksters in the lifestyle they have become too accustomed to, & am considering moving to the Burgas/Varna/Sozopol region of Bulgaria, hopefully later this year, to buy a large house needing renovation or finishing, while I'm still young enough to want to do it. I have also thought about Portugal, though. I've been a builder for 25 years doing mostly tiling, plastering/rendering/dry-lining, roofing/torch-on flat roofing, screeding, block-paving/patios, brick/block laying, & drainage. I've spent around 5 years of that time using German techniques in Germany,-machine plastering, insulation plattes with rausputz. Have also done quite a bit of structural work with metal/timber/reinforced concrete. Fortunately, I've been able to spend enough years doing many of these trades to become considered an expert in them, as well as having the inclination to being a perfectionist on occasion, particularly tiling which I was a main contractor in for many years. My only concern is my lack of knowledge of Bulgaria's language, materials & the logistics of doing the work there.
I am wondering if there is anyone with some experience either similar or complimentary or who may have a similar project who would be interested in a mutually beneficial co-operative arrangement, either sharing the workload or helping out in some way with a barter agreement as far as possible.
I'd be open to any ideas, particularly from people who are 'on the level' in a goodwill sense.

Any advice on my 'great escape plan' is also welcome!
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OldHolborn
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:48 pm 
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The main problem being is that an entire generation of Bulgarians have themselves headed off to Germany to learn the very skills that you want to ply in Bulgaria without being able to use their language or have their local knowledge. Alas, there are plenty of Brits already here looking after each others cats, running each other to the airport and trying to get rich by selling each other their houses at UK prices - plus all of the locals and most of the Brits will not be interested in highly qualified German expertise - it's too expensive.

PS: I'm amazed that after 5 years working in the building trade in Germany, you didn't manage to learn that it's "rauputz", not rausputz. Aber viel Glueck...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:21 pm 
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I'm sure that going to learn skills abroad is far outweighed by going to earn money abroad. I know the territory well enough myself. It's a money thing my friend, not a skills issue in reality....& my choice to invest my hard won skills & money in Bulgaria should only be seen as a positive! But thanks for the instructive comment anyway, which would suggest that I would be better off finding a bulgarian to help in the endeavour. That way I could invest both with the added advantage of some considerable benefit to a local. That probably runs into Bulgarian employment law, though, does it?
As for my skills of the German language.....entschuldigung, aber meine kollegen war alle aus Irland.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:49 pm 
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Simple advice for "the great escape", do it while you can.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:43 am 
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For all practical reasons for me, it has to be Bulgaria. The combination of southern climate, bus access to both Europe and Asia, possibility to fly home quick and cheap, property prices, is just optimal. What other country can offer all this at once?
And the people showed to be a nice lot.

But I have looked into Nicaragua, for example. There are really cheap and nice places to live in South/Central America, even beach property. But the travel distance and cost is staggering, and getting permanent residence is not simple.
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